Cart filler discovery

sweett4rt · 09-30-2009, 09:20 PM

ok I know this isn't about filters but didn't know where to place it.....Wholesale & Retail Best E-smoking Supplier if you are willing to wait for your order to be sent out on Oct 9th and if you order it by Oct 3 the ems shipping is half price and they have some really great prices. :P

Generic · 09-30-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sweett4rt

ok I know this isn't about filters but didn't know where to place it.....Wholesale & Retail Best E-smoking Supplier if you are willing to wait for your order to be sent out on Oct 9th and if you order it by Oct 3 the ems shipping is half price and they have some really great prices. :P

From what I've read elsewhere they have an excellent reputation. While their prices are not really wholesale they are certainly quite resonable. One of their reps, Amy, I believe, partcipates daily on the sub-forum of the other site. Very responsive.

They are on my list of "wholesalers" that I plan on test-ordering from in the near future as I am planning on adding e-cigs to my retail store. I guess I'm spoiled as the two main wholesalers I buy from for my existing product lines are both within 150 miles from my business. This whole China" thing is a learning experience for sure!

Thanks for the info nonetheless!

-Generic

damunster · 09-30-2009, 10:44 PM

I have ordered from them before and had good experiences with them. I think alot of the women in China us "Amy" as thier American name. I have delt with others from China and the name Amy is often used.

Snarkyone · 10-01-2009, 01:28 PM

Heavens Gifts is a reputable place to do business for sure. Many people have recommended them to me and others in the past, if you have the time to wait for shipment it is a good place to order from.

One trick I have found works wonders with the Fluval getting all the liquid out is to flick the wrist a few times with the E-cig in your hand to draw the juice closer to the atomizer, it works great and it's no hassle at all and it brings the liquid through the whole Fluval pad and extends the puffs between topping it off.

Dhileas · 10-08-2009, 03:39 AM

If anyone is having troubles finding them in stores, I found Fluval Filters at Amazon.com.

Hachiroku · 11-05-2009, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Snarkyone

You are not the first to suggest that I have called the pet store and found out they carry it near me. I also just picked up 16oz of PG for $12 at Walgreens from the pharmacy. Just go and ask the pharmacy for some liquid Propylene Glycol like they use in mixing compounds and they can order it no problem if it's not in stock.

16 Oz for $12?!?!

I ordered a GALLON from the local Aubuchon hardware store for $24! A gallon would last a lifetime!

However, after looking at the FDA test results, it appears PG emits Methylene Glycol when heated, which is a toxin. Part of the reason I e-smoke is to cut down on the crap from ciggies, so I cancelled the order...unfortunately too late! They are stuck with a gallon of PG. If you want a whole gallon, I know where you can get it!

Hachiroku · 11-05-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaye

I got the same Fluval pictured in one of VtVapor's earlier posts in this thread and I'm very happy with it. It vapes just fine, taste seems to be smoother than the original cart material and wool nibs (which I tried a few weeks ago), and it's SO DANG EASY to make a zillion filters in no time! I had been looking for a different Fluval product recommended in a video on the ECF but both local pet stores have been out for more than a month and since I got this, I'm through looking. I can't imagine the Pyramid Tea Bag material would be so much better than this that the trouble you have to go to to make the filters would be worth it. And one box with 2 filters is a lifetime supply! This is just snip, snip, snip and you're done (yeah, guys, I know: that's what the doctor said about that minor operation....) I highly recommend the Fluval VtVapor recommended and Generic tried.

I tried this:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/tc-photos/11...ard/513110.jpg

Works well, but still have to drip to keep it from drying out.

I'm going to give the Fluval white a try next time I go where the large pet store is located...

joanneg · 11-14-2009, 03:09 PM

Hello, I am brand spankin new to all of this and sooooooooooo confused. I appear to have made a mistake in buying from smoking everywhere.com (uugh) I am very unhappy with what I have and I am about to order a 510 from rite smoke I think) I am a 2 plus a day smoker so I am looking for ways to decrease the costs, the flavored filters dont seem to last long at all! I understand the repacking the filters, what I dont get is...is it the smoke juice that makes the vapr or is there something else i have to put on the material that makes the vapor? and if so, where do I get it and if you could provide a link?
I am so glad I found this forum,, been smoking for 35 years, and I think this could be my answer!
Jo

Rocketman · 11-14-2009, 03:10 PM

do a you tube search for refilling ecig cartridges,
and yes it is the juice.

you gotta have juice.

juice, spare parts (and you know what's coming next)

NATO ammo, can't have enough NATO ammo

joanneg · 11-14-2009, 03:11 PM

Thanks Rocket man will do

Hachiroku · 11-14-2009, 03:17 PM

I don't know hwat I stumbled upon, but it's great!

I was going through some stuff in the cellar, and I ran across a package I got from Gateway when I was a Gateway FS tech. It had some kind of foam rubber surrounding an LCD screen, and I held on to the foam because it seemed a good cleaning sponge. I put it in a bag sometime last year and forgot about it. As I was going through the pile of boxes that has accumulated I found the bag and the foam. It cuts easily, and I can get about 20 filters from one 2x4" sponge. They hold about 20 drops of fluid, and give it up readily when vaping.

It's kind of like the material in the sponge rubber used for makeup application.

robert jones beauty - tools

http://www.robertjonesbeauty.com/ima...am-sponges.jpg

Rocketman · 11-14-2009, 03:24 PM

Long as when it gets hot, and one day it will get hot, it doesn't end up giving you the "burning plastic mop bucket, makes me want to puke taste".

That's probably not healthy.
Maybe we ought to rethink the filler material thing a little more.

We worry about PG breaking down when it gets hot, VG breaking down when it gets hot, high voltage for throat hit, what is given off when the filler material gets hot?

When I started vaping with the e-cigar I would melt the filler in those giant cartridges and the filler would stick to the atty. I don't like the taste of burning plastic, with or without Nicotine.

Rocket
one day grasshopper, you will realize the importance of becoming one with your atomizer

Hachiroku · 11-14-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocketman

Long as when it gets hot, and one day it will get hot, it doesn't end up giving you the "burning plastic mop bucket, makes me want to puke taste".

That's probably not healthy.
Maybe we ought to rethink the filler material thing a little more.

We worry about PG breaking down when it gets hot, VG breaking down when it gets hot, high voltage for throat hit, what is given off when the filler material gets hot?

When I started vaping with the e-cigar I would melt the filler in those giant cartridges and the filler would stick to the atty. I don't like the taste of burning plastic, with or without Nicotine.

Rocket
one day grasshopper, you will realize the importance of becoming one with your atomizer

I know. I think about this when I try different fillers for carts. What happens when (if) it breaks down?

One of the reasons I gave up ciggys is the dangerous chemicals they produce, but what about the materials in an e-cig?

iCanBreathe · 01-07-2010, 12:23 AM

thats a very good question.. I have been wondering that myself. Some people say that I am a test rat.. It took 20 years for people to know that cigs were bad. Now, it will take 20 more to find out what in e-cigs is harmful. I totally believe that e-cigs are a lot better for you than analogs, but what the hech ARE we smokin'? seriously.. Got a question for someone who knows the answer. Just got a NEW dse 801 atty today, and I want to know, is the reason for the constant burnt taste the white wick stuff under the bridge hitting the foil??? This would be my second atty that i can not get to not give me a burnt taste. I am getting a little sick of this. Any suggestions.. Remember, I just got this new atty today!!! I rinsed out my old atty with hot water, and its about dry, but i think the problem has to do with construction of the atty, not what i am doing. Also, if you need to know, I was using the white looking filler that looks like the stock cart filler with the atty, but, i thought maybe the little hairs were getting on the foil, and burning, hence the burnt taste... so, i changed to the blue stuff from the pet store.. Please reply, I am going nuts having to top off every couple of puffs.

serialvapist · 04-21-2010, 06:42 PM

Been using Big Al's Filter Floss. Got most of a 20 sq.ft. bag left over that I use to use with a large aquarium. It should fill around a gajillion carts for around 10 bucks! Been working great for me. I've always found Fluval Products overpriced.

Big Al's Filter Floss-20 Sq.Ft - Filter Media - Mechanical at BigalsOnline

socalsmoker · 07-20-2010, 01:46 AM

How about using the filling inside a Zippo lighter above that felt pad you squirt lighter fluid onto? That material was designed to wick fluid. As far as it heating up against the atty I suppose some type of organic material would be safest. After reading from the Zippo website they use cotton stuffing for their material. Well cotton would probably have excellent wicking properties and it is organic. The only thing is that it is combustable.

40bikes · 07-20-2010, 04:48 AM

SoCal, I think you will find icotton just isn't wicking fast enough to keep the atty wet, then it will scorch.
What I use in my carts is the blue open pore foam used for aquarium filters, usually avail at any pet store. The method that works for me is to remove the manufactures filler, clean cart with hot water, put in about 90% of the capacity of fluid . The plug of blue foam I use is 3/4"x1/2" and is folded in half lengthwise yeilding a 1/2"x 3/8 roll that you stuff into the filled cart. Top off with a couple drops of ejuice and put the cart in the atty. Works for 510s or 901 types, 801s require bigger plug, format is the same.
Don't buy any of the aqua filter foam that says it contains activated charcoal,will probably screw up an atty . Cignot and strictlyejuice both sell small lots of this media cut into usable size pieces if you want to give it a shot. good luck, bikes

breaktru · 08-27-2010, 06:58 PM

I like using the Blue Foam filler the MarineLand Bonded Filter Pad that you can buy in the Pet shop. Use the fine material. I cut it in a "T" shape. Thick on top to create a plug effect and the vertical bottom I cut narrow for wicking which leaves room in the cartridge so it holds more juice. Seems to get more mileage out of a 510 cartridge with this filler and cut.