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11-02-2009, 02:47 PM
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#1 | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Maine
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| Has anyone here tried freezing their smoke juice? I hear it has a shelf life of like 2 years, but was just wondering for people looking to stockpile. thanks again. | 
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11-02-2009, 03:35 PM
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#2 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Arkansas
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| I've been told that too, but I only order enough for 2 months at a time. | |
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11-08-2009, 09:55 PM
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#3 | | Chuck Totin' Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Columbus,OH - USA
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| Good luck getting Propylene Glycol based juice to freeze.
It's just food grade antifreeze.
What I wonder is, what happens after 2 years? taste bad? loses strength? IDK
Also, how much juice could you need to have it last more than two years. I go through 3ml a day. so, I would have to have more than a 2-liter bottle on hand before I need to worry about a 2-year expiration. Oh wait... I guess I do...better get off here and get to some heavy vapin' 
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11-09-2009, 03:12 PM
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#5 | | 5 Volt Vaporer Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: GA
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Originally Posted by LeCig  I've been told that too, but I only order enough for 2 months at a time. | If you only order enough for two months, what will you do if a ban occurs? | |
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11-09-2009, 03:15 PM
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#6 | | 5 Volt Vaporer Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: GA
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| I vacuum seal mine and keep in a cool, dark place. I've read that it's not good to let it get below about 35-40 degrees when storing. I don't know for sure. I wouldn't freeze it, however. | |
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11-09-2009, 03:42 PM
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#7 | | Chuck Totin' Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Columbus,OH - USA
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| Does anyone have the answer to... What happens after 2 years???? | |
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11-09-2009, 08:48 PM
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#8 | | 5 Volt Vaporer Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: GA
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Originally Posted by highping Does anyone have the answer to... What happens after 2 years???? | I don't know for sure but I've read that the nicotine loses it's strength and I've also read the PG is what has the 2 year life span. | |
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11-09-2009, 09:05 PM
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#9 | | I Want YOU!... To Vape! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sunny Florida! U.S.A.
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Originally Posted by highping Does anyone have the answer to... What happens after 2 years???? | Bad things from what I've heard. 
I've only been vaping about 7 months... so its too soon for me to speak from personal experience.
Those that are interested in this thread or have like interests... see the thread and test I started a few months ago on another forum... What is the Best Way to Store E-Liquids? - e-cigarette-forum.com • The place for electronic cigarette reviews, news and chat
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11-09-2009, 09:11 PM
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#10 | | Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: North Ga Mountains
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| The shelf life for both PG and Liquid Nicotine is from 1 1/2 years to 2 years but understand that once the container is opened the shelf life will degrade due to contact with air and light. Sealed containers will maintain the shelf life stated on the package and possibly last longer if stored properly. | |
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02-10-2010, 12:07 AM
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#11 | | awarded title of Sir Arse Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| Freeze update:
250ml of VtVapor 35mg/ml VG unflavored was place in the freezer stash on 08/22/09. I broke it out 02/08/10 and let it warm up, shook the sheeet out of it and mixed up about 300ml of 12mg/ml Grape, plus some other assorted fruity flavors, but mostly grape, and mostly VG (running low on PG). Almost a month's supply ready to go.
and i used my Visolocometer to get the drop time to 1.5minutes/ml using just a little 100 proof.
No noticeable taste shift from about 6 months in the freezer. The unflavored sealed and back in the freezer, the grape in the fridge (most of it).
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02-10-2010, 12:58 AM
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#12 | | Vapeatron Grammar Hammer Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Holding up a lamp post.
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Originally Posted by Anothertime | 60° is a suspect phrase since some people go by Celsius and others (almost only North Americans) use Fahrenheit. In Celsius, PG freezes at -59°. In Fahrenheit, PG freezes at -74.2° (convert it yourself ).
VG on the other hand is much easier to freeze. VG freezes at 18° Celsius (or 64.4° Fahrenheit).
Now, when trying to freeze either of these solutions, you have to consider the Freezing Point for nicotine, if you indeed have nicotine in the juice. Nicotine freezes at -79 ° Celsius (or -110° Fahrenheit). The amount of nicotine that you add to your juice will truly determine what temperature your juice will freeze at.
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02-10-2010, 01:10 AM
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#13 | | awarded title of Sir Arse Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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| The 35mg/ml VG unflavored probably has in addition to the 3.5% Nicotine, about 12 to 15 % water to thin it. It was not frozen at zero F. Thicker for sure but not frozen. My concern was separation after warming it up. And of course taste.
Seemed fine.
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If I posted this, then my thawed out VG juice hasn't killed me
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02-10-2010, 01:31 AM
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#14 | | Vapeatron Grammar Hammer Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Holding up a lamp post.
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Originally Posted by Rocketman The 35mg/ml VG unflavored probably has in addition to the 3.5% Nicotine, about 12 to 15 % water to thin it. It was not frozen at zero F. Thicker for sure but not frozen. My concern was separation after warming it up. And of course taste.
Seemed fine.
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Rocket | I wouldn't worry too much over the solutions separating. If nothing else, a swish around should bring things back to par depending on the size being thawed. Maybe adding a drop of purified water would help to bring things back together as it would (barely) dilute the solutions and thus allowing them to come together... right now... over me. Sorry, been listening to the Beatles lately.
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02-10-2010, 01:42 AM
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#15 | | awarded title of Sir Arse Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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02-10-2010, 02:23 AM
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#16 | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: St. Louis
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| I orderd 60ml of vg and got snowed in so i didn't even check the mail for a week. When I got it, it was so thick, it would not drip, but not frozen. I rolled a bottle in my hands to warm it up for about 5 mins and it vaped just fine. temp was 10 to 25 degrees F outside.
more to the 2 yr point, I will tell you in 2 years. I just put a 5ml bottle away in my fav flavor and I will vape it on 2/10/12 and get back to you.
unless, Rocket develops a time machine powered by a USB passthrough that allows me to visit the future, test the 2 year old bottle, return to present day, and edit this post for you. | |
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02-10-2010, 02:39 AM
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#17 | | Vapeatron Grammar Hammer Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Holding up a lamp post.
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Originally Posted by bigslick83 I orderd 60ml of vg and got snowed in so i didn't even check the mail for a week. When I got it, it was so thick, it would not drip, but not frozen. I rolled a bottle in my hands to warm it up for about 5 mins and it vaped just fine. temp was 10 to 25 degrees F outside.
more to the 2 yr point, I will tell you in 2 years. I just put a 5ml bottle away in my fav flavor and I will vape it on 2/10/12 and get back to you.
unless, Rocket develops a time machine powered by a USB passthrough that allows me to visit the future, test the 2 year old bottle, return to present day, and edit this post for you. | Didn't you hear? The world ends in 2012. Granted it's in December, but I wouldn't plan for much. You should see my credit card bills. They're higher than my cholesterol!  
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02-10-2010, 02:46 AM
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#18 | | awarded title of Sir Arse Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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Originally Posted by bigslick83 I orderd 60ml of vg and got snowed in so i didn't even check the mail for a week. When I got it, it was so thick, it would not drip, but not frozen. I rolled a bottle in my hands to warm it up for about 5 mins and it vaped just fine. temp was 10 to 25 degrees F outside.
more to the 2 yr point, I will tell you in 2 years. I just put a 5ml bottle away in my fav flavor and I will vape it on 2/10/12 and get back to you.
unless, Rocket develops a time machine powered by a USB passthrough that allows me to visit the future, test the 2 year old bottle, return to present day, and edit this post for you. | Send ME the 60ml of VG juice.
I'll age it using a secret acceleration method we developed here at the Rocket factory, vape it (saves you the trouble) and report back how it turned out
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02-10-2010, 02:53 AM
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#19 | | awarded title of Sir Arse Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Louisiana
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02-10-2010, 03:12 AM
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#20 | | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: St. Louis
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| posted today 02:53 AM
Rocketman:
Back on track, hehe;
A VG mix might settle out (maybe?) during the freezing/thawing. If the VG separates and freezes (crystallizing) then the remaining liquid (water, NIC, whatever else) may have a higher NIC content than originally. If no signs of crystallization or appearance of striations when held up to the light it survived (I think).
Great that your VG based NIC juice didn't "freeze"
(if you see this post today, I made it back. If you saw this post yesterday, I overshot, and if this post is not here, well that's a bad sign for sure)
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