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Originally Posted by Stehle  The "effect" is faster. Vaping is faster than drinking.  (It almost instantaneous vaping... maybe 10-20 minutes drinking.)  | It's sure gonna be hard for me to put this down at 6:00 p.m. You think the effect lasts as long as coffee does? See, if it has less shelf-life then I could vape it longer...addicted minds want to know! 
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03-08-2010, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Dwellsouth It's sure gonna be hard for me to put this down at 6:00 p.m. You think the effect lasts as long as coffee does? See, if it has less shelf-life then I could vape it longer...addicted minds want to know! | More than likely since absorption rate is faster the effect would diminish faster.
Caffeine when vaped; may have different chemical characteristics or properties, but could stay in the system (body) as long as having it as drink would.
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03-08-2010, 05:47 PM
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| Yeah, like all we need is DS all wired on caffeine vaping and posting all night.
and then there is the 'morning after',
OMG
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Originally Posted by Rocketman Yeah, like all we need is DS all wired on caffeine vaping and posting all night.
and then there is the 'morning after',
OMG
Rocket | I'll stalk YOU!!!!
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03-08-2010, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Dwellsouth I'll stalk YOU!!!! | Oh yeah, I already do that now!
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Originally Posted by Dwellsouth Thanks for the link. With that entire thread now read, I think this caffeine juice I bought is better than anything they mentioned. I'm going to play with it and see how high I can get the caffeine MGs per MLs and still have it taste good.
I'll let you know. | You read that entire thread eh...yup rockets right, no more caffeine for you.
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#33 | | ~A 500+ WHo DaT?!?! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CaJuN LoUiSiaNa SWaMPLaND
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Originally Posted by TheRealZero You read that entire thread eh...yup rockets right, no more caffeine for you.
yes i said 'eh'. | I did, yah. You say eh, I say yah. Must be the Cajun Canadian ConneXion.
I read the thread BEFORE vaping the crazy juice even.
I quit the juice at 7 p.m.
I was whipped from my usual LOSS (lack of sleep syndrome), some kids, some food ~ 1 glass-o-wine and I was OUT!
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| On the back of the their card it says: Free bottle of 5150 Juice.
To receive your free bottle of 5150 juice - send an email to free@5150juice.com with your name and email address.
We will send you an email with a special code for your free sample. Go to Caffeine Caffeine Caffeine Energy Drink :: Liquid Caffeine Caffeinated 5150 to redeem your code.
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Originally Posted by Dwellsouth On the back of the their card it says: Free bottle of 5150 Juice.
To receive your free bottle of 5150 juice - send an email to free@5150juice.com | Email Sent! Thanks DS!
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#36 | | I Want YOU!... To Vape! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sunny Florida! U.S.A.
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| The 5150 juice is Sorta "free"...
$3.95 Flat Rate (California sales tax and S&H fees apply ) (Glad I moved out of Cal now!)
"The Super Cheap Bastard Cookie Monster"
( ..that's privacy oriented now.)
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| So secretive no one noticed the
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03-09-2010, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Rocketman So secretive no one noticed the
500 posts
Congrats | TY... I was going keep the " 510" post around for a day to pay homage to the model number
( naaww... its gone now!)
( Guess I'll have to wait for "808" now.)
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03-12-2010, 01:29 PM
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| Free Bottle of 5150 Juice - use the discount code get5150 to receive a FREE bottle of 5150 (s&h applies - $3.95). Simply go to: FREE Bottle of 5150 Juice :: Get 5150 :: ENERGY SUPPLEMENT
I did their survey and suggested they put dropper tops in there for ease of use (especially into nicjuice).
I like the stuff but don't have the mix just right so that I don't taste it too much. Maybe in cotton candy flavoring...we'll see.
It's good in my coffee milk though!
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Originally Posted by Stehle ( Guess I'll have to wait for "808" now.) | Hands free vaping makes for more posts... LoL
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Originally Posted by Stehle More than likely since absorption rate is faster the effect would diminish faster.
Caffeine when vaped; may have different chemical characteristics or properties, but could stay in the system (body) as long as having it as drink would. | I started looking up caffeine effects and found this article comparing the effects of nicotine and caffeine administered intravenously, which is essentially the same as vaping. Intravenous Nicotine and Caffeine: Subjective and Physiological Effects in Cocaine Abusers ? JPET
About half way down they have a chart comparison of the effects vs time. It looks like they are about the same time-wise. 15-30 min and it wears off. Maybe the reason we're up for long periods of time when drinking caffeine is that our metabolisms act as a kind of slow release pill.
So I went looking for an answer to that: Apparently caffeine starts being absorbed 15 min after ingestion, and is completely absorbed 45 min after. However, only about 1/2 is eliminated in the urine within 6 hours. I guess the half life of nicotine is 60-120 minutes depending on where you look. So that doesn't really match the charts, but the charts are a subjective measure, not a direct measure of the amount of substance still in your system
3 Cups of coffee is about 250mg of caffeine, while a regular cigarette is about 1.5mg, and a 16mg e-cig will deliver .80mg (Ruyan data of 16mg e-liquid, 15 puffs). So looking at those levels on the chart, it seems that caffeine and nicotine at relatively normal levels are about the same when introduced directly into the blood. Though, it does look like the nicotine has more of a "kick". | |
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Originally Posted by JBsmokes I started looking up caffeine effects and found this article comparing the effects of nicotine and caffeine administered intravenously, which is essentially the same as vaping....
Intravenous Nicotine and Caffeine: Subjective and Physiological Effects in Cocaine Abusers ? JPET
3 Cups of coffee is about 250mg of caffeine, while a regular cigarette is about 1.5mg, and a 16mg e-cig will deliver .80mg (Ruyan data of 16mg e-liquid, 15 puffs). So looking at those levels on the chart, it seems that caffeine and nicotine at relatively normal levels are about the same when introduced directly into the blood. Though, it does look like the nicotine has more of a "kick". | Welcome JBsmokes and thank you for the link and information. Very well put.
We must keep in mind the study in your link above was of nine subjects abusing caffeine, tobacco, and using cocaine. We all know of minor substance abuse and addiction. (First hand on nicotine overdosing.  ) It does seem plausible that we can add stimulants to our nicotine when vaping, but a word of caution here in that anyone reading this know that this can be fraught with danger and should be left to experienced vapers who are well aware of the risks. 'nuff said.
( In other words... be responsible!)
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Originally Posted by Stehle Welcome JBsmokes and thank you for the link and information. Very well put.
We must keep in mind the study in your link above was of nine subjects abusing caffeine, tobacco, and using cocaine. We all know of minor substance abuse and addiction. (First hand on nicotine overdosing. ) It does seem plausible that we can add stimulants to our nicotine when vaping, but a word of caution here in that anyone reading this know that this can be fraught with danger and should be left to experienced vapers who are well aware of the risks. 'nuff said.
( In other words... be responsible!) | Agree 100%
I guess I didn't read some of the other posts carefully enough. I don't advocate adding caffeine to your nicotine. My interest was as substitute, to add to 0mg e-liquid. In fact, I think there are some studies out there that say that Nicotine + Caffeine is actually a bad idea.
I don't think a coffee or coke 'n a vape is too much to worry about, or we'd all be in trouble, but without detailed analysis and knowledge I wouldn't "add" caffeine to nicotine e-liquid. | |
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| When I did my trial run with 5HR energy, 26 mg/ml nic liquid, and vg in equal parts I wasn't able to get to sleep for 4hrs after I was done vaping, and that was only 1.5 ml of the mix. I'm not sure of the science but the experience was unsettling. Discontinued that formula.
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03-30-2010, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 40bikes When I did my trial run with 5HR energy, 26 mg/ml nic liquid, and vg in equal parts I wasn't able to get to sleep for 4hrs after I was done vaping, and that was only 1.5 ml of the mix. I'm not sure of the science but the experience was unsettling. Discontinued that formula.
bikes | Then the experience a'int worth it!
I have the bottle I mixed of cafy/nicjuice and it's just too watery for my liking. The caffiene juice still would need to be more potent to turn out the way I'd like.
I enjoy my coffee and enjoy my vaporizer separately.
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