battery modders

Emantha · 09-30-2010, 11:14 PM

We got our order today (super props for super fast delivery

).

We love our new carts...on our old batteries. On the new batteries, not so much.
Here's my question. Is there anything we can do to the new batteries so it doesn't feel like sucking air through a straw? There is almost no vapor, or taste. And it doesn't matter which carts we use, the ones we already had, or the new ones we bought with the batteries.
Can ya help us out, oh wise modders of the ecig world?

Rocketman · 09-30-2010, 11:37 PM

Strange.
Sometimes a carto (cartomizer) will have very little flow resistance and sound like a leaking tire but vapes like crazy. I find that lots of airflow just produces more vapor for me. If the carto filler is wet (give it time to soak) then I can get clouds.

If you are using carts (cartridges) with an atty (atomizer) then it's a little different. It's hard to get the same level of saturation with a cart unless you drip. If the heater doesn't stay wet (not saturated and flooded) then a little flow resistance is better.
Some people use a little tape around the air holes/slots to restrict flow and get a little more suction.

Expect to find differences between batchs of attys, cartos, and even batteries. If the new batteries are not making good electrical contact vapor will be decreased. Just don't try and correct this by over tightening the threaded connection. Just wipe the connection clean, recharge and try again. Hope it gets better.

Rocky

Steampunk · 09-30-2010, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Emantha

We got our order today (super props for super fast delivery

).

We love our new carts...on our old batteries. On the new batteries, not so much.
Here's my question. Is there anything we can do to the new batteries so it doesn't feel like sucking air through a straw? There is almost no vapor, or taste. And it doesn't matter which carts we use, the ones we already had, or the new ones we bought with the batteries.
Can ya help us out, oh wise modders of the ecig world?

You don't really want to mess with the battery too much, they are Lithium Ion and can go <BOOM> if you do something wrong!

Rocky and I think Chris have mentioned drilling a hole in the skirt of the atty to get more airflow, maybe one of them will chime in.

Sounds like you got a manual battery that does not have a hole in the middle connector; either that or it's not meant for the type of cart you're using. I have had some of LeCigs carts not work on some 901 fittings...

There should be a groove in the center terminal of the new battery. I have also heard of people 'cutting' a notch in this connector with a Dremel if there isn't one already in order to achieve better airflow.

Rocketman · 09-30-2010, 11:41 PM

I never really got the meaning of "like sucking through a straw".
I normally think in terms of flow rates and vacuum levels

Is "like sucking through a straw" like sucking a milk shake up a small straw, or drawing air though a big straw?

Emantha · 09-30-2010, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocketman

Is "like sucking through a straw" like sucking a milk shake up a small straw, or drawing air though a straw?

Like air through a fat straw.... there is almost no draw resistance.
*grins* i am looking for the scotch tape, even now, to try that...

Rocketman · 09-30-2010, 11:54 PM

Just a heads up to some of the newbies here.
When describing problems, help us out a little.
Mention the battery type (manual, 510 style, 808D-1 style, old 901, etc),
and whether you are using Cartos or Carts with an Atty. Makes a difference.

Rocky

ChRiS · 10-01-2010, 06:14 AM

no resistance, meaning your getting too much air and not enough vapor right? whats the rig your using? well if you did the drilling like i explained in one of my threads you might have whet too far with drilling out both holes. really nothing you could do besides put a dab of JB weld in one and hope the resistance returns.

if you havent done anything to the battery you might just have bad connections with the cart and batt causing too much air....didnt you say before you were using those weird cartos? try using original KR cartos or some blank 808's most any dealer carrys um'. until then put a strip of tape over half the holes going around your carto/battery that should help until you get some new ones. oh yeah, make sure your battery is fully charged too.

i have found a new love for 510 cartomizers on big battery mods so i might stop posting relevent information pertaining to KR808d-1 e-cigs. but if anyone has questions i'll tell you what i know and what i have learned. ~ChRi$

ChRiS · 10-01-2010, 06:17 AM

and if your over filling your cartos it'll take a minute or two for them to give off satisfatory vapor. good luck

Emantha · 10-01-2010, 06:26 AM

Good morning

These are kr808d-1 batteries (automatic). We did absolutely nothing to them exceept take them out of the package and charge them yesterday. Yes we have the weird cartos, we also have the nice new catos that we ordered when we ordered the batteries.
I don't think it is a connection problem since both batteries are doing the same thing.

By the way, i peeked into these new cartos and refilling these will be a snap, you were absolutely right about liking them!!

ChRiS · 10-01-2010, 06:33 AM

its so weird that your getting too much air. 95% of the time its a problem with too little air. are you sure its too much air your getting? does it happen with all the batterys? i would return them to the dealer and explain the problem.

Emantha · 10-01-2010, 06:29 PM

Well, i found a way to improve it. I took a carto condom and cut the top off. i can slide it down around where the battery connects to the cart, and it greatly improves. However, my husbands battery appears to be defective, it simply doesn't work. the led lights, but other than that, nothing works.
Thank you for suggesting the scotch tape, i may never have thought of using the cart condom otherwise.

Steampunk · 10-01-2010, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Emantha

Well, i found a way to improve it. I took a carto condom and cut the top off. i can slide it down around where the battery connects to the cart, and it greatly improves. However, my husbands battery appears to be defective, it simply doesn't work. the led lights, but other than that, nothing works.
Thank you for suggesting the scotch tape, i may never have thought of using the cart condom otherwise.

On my cartos (510s) the bottom (middle) connector is in too far! I thought I had a couple defective carts, but I took a small screwdriver and wiggled the center contact out VERY gently, et, voila! vapor galore!

ChRiS · 10-01-2010, 08:31 PM

yes somtimes i would get various types of 808 carts and not all the battery contacts protruded as far as others. just like Hach said (sorry...Steampunk), take a small eyeglass screwdriver and pry it out a lil' for it to contact your battery.

Emantha · 10-01-2010, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ChRiS

i would return them to the dealer and explain the problem.

This is what i am doing. One phone call and he said no problem, i'll send replacements, and send you a shipping label to return those. No fuss, no muss, something i absolutely adore in customer service!!

ChRiS · 10-01-2010, 09:44 PM

good for you. these are the spoils we enjoy when doing business with US dealers. good luck trying to return anything to someone in mainland China lol.