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| OK, Adam, you're on.
I ordered two 510 attys from Vt Vapor, to see if there's a difference.
I just don't get why I'm going through so many of these things so fast...
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Originally Posted by Rocketman  Where's the jack for the passthru? | I have a 300 watt and a 500 watt amp. More than enough power!
Dude, I smoke even without en e-cig! 
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| How many 808A/B attys are still alive? | |
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12-15-2009, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by LeCig How many 808A/B attys are still alive? | Those are the ones with the separate carts, right?
So far, one dead, two to go. If this one lasts as long as the first, I might order a couple. They fit the 510 socket just fine.
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12-15-2009, 01:02 AM
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| They are the Super minis
808A/B = 8.6mm in dia. (3 piece)
808C/D = 9.2mm in dia. (3 piece)  | |
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Originally Posted by LeCig They are the Super minis
808A/B = 8.6mm in dia. (3 piece)
808C/D = 9.2mm in dia. (3 piece) | What is the Cartomizer with the big cardboard tube around it? That fits a 510 connector fine. It is currently undergoing MTBF (Mean Time Between Fry) testing on the Atty Smasher.
I also put a little bit of Fluval above the heating element to make it draw more like a cig and hold more juice...
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12-15-2009, 11:47 PM
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| Hey Hach, I was just surfing and found this....... High Voltage 510 Atomizer
Maybe you've seen it maybe you haven't but since you seem to be the man with the ASS (atty slayer syndrome) as Kaye christened you LOL...........here it is.
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Originally Posted by nebraskapuffer Hey Hach, I was just surfing and found this....... High Voltage 510 Atomizer
Maybe you've seen it maybe you haven't but since you seem to be the man with the ASS (atty slayer syndrome) as Kate christened you LOL...........here it is. | I'd sure hate to burn up $12! It's bad enough burning up $8!
What's interesting is, it is rated at 4-5 ohms. Quick calculation says at ~4.5 ohms, the draw will be <1 amp. A normal atty draws just over an amp. Without goingto 6 volts it may not be enough to vaporize the juice.
I'm looking at some cartomizer attys. They use a single strand of resistive wire to cook the juice. I'm wondering what would happen with 2-3 strands...
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12-16-2009, 12:22 AM
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| So does it look like a std atty with a pretty name attached to it? | |
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Originally Posted by Hachiroku
What's interesting is, it is rated at 4-5 ohms. Quick calculation says at ~4.5 ohms, the draw will be <1 amp. A normal atty draws just over an amp. Without goingto 6 volts it may not be enough to vaporize the juice.
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| It's more than just a pretty face. The resistance is higher. That may indicate a more robust heating element. It's not meant to run at 3.7, since it is about 1 ohm higher than normal and will run down a standard 510 or 901 battery in about 20 minutes. You need a long lasting battery like an 18650 or so.
Current delivery on a li ion battery is about 8-10amps. But it will only do that much for a short period of time. A normal atty draws about 1.5 amps, for approx 5.5 Watts. This is meant to operate at about 7 watts. My 4.2V 2.25A mods can deliver about 9 watts, depending on resistance. It should work. Since it will be a little underpowered it may last longer. I might get one to try it out and see what happens. The TI circuits I'm using are adjustable up to 5.5V, and the battery booster will hit 6V no problem.
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12-16-2009, 10:20 PM
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| http://www.waveevents.com/MyFilez/wavs/music/queen1.wav
901 this time...not even a week...
THose of you with long-lasting attys, do you remember where you got them?
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| I got mine from some crazy vape pimp in Arkansas ... :0 | |
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12-16-2009, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by LeCig I got mine from some crazy vape pimp in Arkansas ... :0 | Which model do you use the most/has lasted the longest?
I like the 501, but I keep blowing the attys! I'm looking into making my own. Danm, I have enough housings by now...
Where's our friend Rocket tonight? i want to ask him if he knows anything about the wire in...toasters...
I feel a trip to Salvation Army coming on...$3 toaster...
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| I'm soaking 10 attys in diet coke right now trying to get them clean (808Bs) ... I hope that kind of brings them to life.
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| the kangeroo 808Bs like I sent you. Did you ever blow them all up?
BTW, the cartomizer with the foam you were asking me about a couple of days ago that fits the 510 is a soft cartridge ... I have a box of those puppies. did you ever disect one? Same as a D series cartomizer just with a smaller well and less fluvals ... I think they were trying to be PETA compliant with that move
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| Rocket here
Toaster probably not.
But I did some development work on quartz oscillator temperature control ovens using fine gauge Ni-chrome. These were intended for use on a large laboratory that goes "round and round"
I have the data on wire size, cross section vs current density, dissipation, temperature rise, heat sinking in air and uh non air.
It's at the Rocket Factory, and I'm drain bread tonight.
It is something that can be done. and small gauge Ni-chrome can be bought in small rolls. You could aslo buy a small length of type t or type s (has platinum wire in one lead) thermocouple wire, 30 to 32 gauge would probably work.
Will try and dig up info tomorrow if I have time. I'm off Fri and Sat, back on Sunday.
I also think the heated Platinum O2 sensor used in computer controlled fuel injection systems was the inspiration for the Chinese to come up with the heated atomizer in the first place. The small preheater in the O2 sensor gets over 400F to pre heat the O2 sensor. It's a small package and I wonder if a million of them were made in excess and -
Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by LeCig the kangeroo 808Bs like I sent you. Did you ever blow them all up?
BTW, the cartomizer with the foam you were asking me about a couple of days ago that fits the 510 is a soft cartridge ... I have a box of those puppies. did you ever disect one? Same as a D series cartomizer just with a smaller well and less fluvals ... I think they were trying to be PETA compliant with that move
PS- The rocketman is in the house | No, I haven't taken one apart yet...I'm USING it! So far...I ain't sayin'....
I like the 808B atty, I burned one out and the second one is on the car Atty Smasher. Vaped it all day today. I think the first one went 10 days, which is something of a record for me...
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Originally Posted by Rocketman Rocket here
Toaster probably not.
But I did some development work on quartz oscillator temperature control ovens using fine gauge Ni-chrome. These were intended for use on a large laboratory that goes "round and round"
I have the data on wire size, cross section vs current density, dissipation, temperature rise, heat sinking in air and uh non air.
It's at the Rocket Factory, and I'm drain bread tonight.
It is something that can be done. and small gauge Ni-chrome can be bought in small rolls. You could aslo buy a small length of type t or type s (has platinum wire in one lead) thermocouple wire, 30 to 32 gauge would probably work.
Will try and dig up info tomorrow if I have time. I'm off Fri and Sat, back on Sunday.
I also think the heated Platinum O2 sensor used in computer controlled fuel injection systems was the inspiration for the Chinese to come up with the heated atomizer in the first place. The small preheater in the O2 sensor gets over 400F to pre heat the O2 sensor. It's a small package and I wonder if a million of them were made in excess and -
Just a thought.
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Hmmmmm.......
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| I didn't read through this entire thread, but I found a material that (for me, anyway) seems to work well. When I re-fill, my cart is ALWAYS dry.
I use a small piece of 3M Scotchbrite pad (green).
I cut it just thin enough to fit into the cart and stay in without falling out if you turn it upside down and fill 'er up!
I haven't died from using this stuff yet, although my wife tells me I shouldn't use it. (It's only plastic, ya know! It's not like it is exposed to an open flame before I inhale!)
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| Tom,
Some scotchbright has an abrasive bound to the plastic. Makes it work better.
Try soaking a little piece in a little juice and make sure you aren't getting sediment.
People have inhaled stuff that took years to cause them problems.
Go to the 3M site and check the variety you are using.
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| Is THAT why I am seeing THREE of everything?!
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Originally Posted by moogvo Is THAT why I am seeing THREE of everything?! | Oh boy that sounds great. I still stand by the Rena aquarium filters. Main reasons: they are made with 100% cotton, they are woven, and they are the right size for the width of the 510 carts.
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