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Old 11-10-2010, 06:38 PM   #1
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I just received the Universite De Geneve e-cig study saliva sample kit and questionaire in the mail today.
Wondering if anybody else here get one also? I remember signing up for it off a link from some "other" forum when I first was looking around back in September right after I started vaping.
If any body else is interested and I can post what it is about.
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Old 11-10-2010, 06:41 PM   #2
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Naw,
Sounds intrusive into my privacy.
Plus now I know why you tried to get us salivating last nigth.
So you could test it tonight

What are they trying to determine?
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Old 11-10-2010, 06:46 PM   #3
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Naw,
Sounds intrusive into my privacy.
Plus now I know why you tried to get us salivating last nigth.
So you could test it tonight

What are they trying to determine?
If somebody was posting dirty pictures..





its for cotinine analysis of ecig users
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Might be a trick to slap you with a paternity suit.
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Might be a trick to slap you with a paternity suit.
VV I appreciate the warning .....really but

No.... I do remember applying for this as a link. The odds were very low of actually getting picked for it. I must have met some criteria I guess.

Funny I don't remember to lack of sanity questions but they must have been there somewhere..............
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Are they requesting volunteers? Anybody requesting volunteers?
OK, I'm going back to the dungeon.
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Old 11-10-2010, 08:12 PM   #7
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Heres what it is:
Letter dated Sept 30th from University De Geneve (switzerland), Faculte De Medicine sociale et preventive. Jean-Francois ETTER Phd, privat docent, senior lecture
etc etc.
Study of electronic cigarettes: cotinine analysis
Dear "bErger"
Thank you for participating in this study and for your willingness to provide a saliva sample for cotinine analysis. Cotinine is a breakdown product of nicotine by the liver.
this analysis will help determine the amount of nicotine inhaled by electronic cigarette users, in comparison of non-users. The salivia samplpes will be used soley for the cotinine analysis and will be destroyed afterwards. The study is independent of manufacturers and sellers of electronic cigarettes and of the tobacco and pharmaceutical industries.The data will be stored on a computer file to allow statistical analysis. Your answers will not be disclosed to any 3rd parties. The data will made anonymous before we undertake statistical analysis. If you do not want your answers to be stored, please do not respond. The results of the analysis will be published in a scientific journal. The study began in March 2010 and ends December 2011. We expect 1500 participants in total.
Attached is a consent form, a brief questionnaire and a plastic container to collect saliva with instructions. Please collect the saliva sample as indicated and return it to us by air mail. The following items must be included in the envelope: plastic container with saliva sample, consent form and completed questionnaire.
Thank you for your cooperation, Sincerely Jean-Francois Etter

Questionnaire:
Todays Date:
Sample collection time:
Over the last 48 hours did you smoke (even one puff of cigarette, cigar, pipe, etc.)? Y/N
Over the last 48 hours did you use any oral tobacco (chewing tobacco, snus), or snuff? Y/N
Over the last 48 hours did you use a nicotine replacement medication? (nicotine patch, gum, lozenge, inhaler, tablet)? Y/N
Over the last 48 hours have you inhaled the vapor of an electronic cigarette? Y/N
Currently, on how many days per week do you use the electronic cigarette? #
How many puffs per day do you draw on your electronic cigarette? #/day
Does the electronic cigarette that you currently use contain nicotine? Y/N
What is the volume/capacity (in milliliters, mL) of the bottles of liquid that you use to fill your electronic cigarettes? _ mL per bottle
What is the concentration of nicotine in this liquid? _ mg nicotine Specify Per mL, Per 10mL, Per 100 mL, Per litre
What is the capacity (in mg of nicotine) of the cartridge (refills) that you use with your electronic cigarette? _ mg nicotine per cartridge
Currently, how many times PER DAY do you refill your electronic cigarette, on average? (That is , how many times a day do you add liquid or do you insert a new cartridge) __ cartridges/refills per day
Usually, how long does a refill or cartridge of your electronic cigarette last? __hours
What brand and model of electronic cigarette do you currently use? _Brand _ Model
Question for EX-smokers: When did you quit smoking? Date__
Question for smokers: On average, how many cigarettes (tobacco) do you smoke per day? __ cig/day

Then has directions for how to use collection device
I wont go into that part but I bet rocket would love to get his hands on these things
Basically its a cotten filler inside a small container that fits into a cone head top cover





Just one additional note here. Any supplier who would like to get their name into this study Im available for ecig samples First come first served kidding
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Anybody else get the Geneve ecig Study Kit?-siliva-1-small.jpgAnybody else get the Geneve ecig Study Kit?-siliva-2-small.jpg
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Are you going to count your puffs?
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Are you going to count your puffs?
Thats easy... a butt load
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Send them Hamster saliva.

Just kidding.

Sounds interesting. Cotinine in body fluids, which that little device looks like it could be used to collect several different fluids, is probably to confirm that we are actually absorbing nicotine, duh.
Some don't believe that.
I guess be as honest as you can.
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Heres what it is:
Letter dated Sept 30th from University De Geneve (switzerland), Faculte De Medicine sociale et preventive. Jean-Francois ETTER Phd, privat docent, senior lecture
etc etc.
Study of electronic cigarettes: cotinine analysis
Dear "bErger"
Thank you for participating in this study and for your willingness to provide a saliva sample for cotinine analysis. Cotinine is a breakdown product of nicotine by the liver.
this analysis will help determine the amount of nicotine inhaled by electronic cigarette users, in comparison of non-users. The salivia samplpes will be used soley for the cotinine analysis and will be destroyed afterwards. The study is independent of manufacturers and sellers of electronic cigarettes and of the tobacco and pharmaceutical industries.The data will be stored on a computer file to allow statistical analysis. Your answers will not be disclosed to any 3rd parties. The data will made anonymous before we undertake statistical analysis. If you do not want your answers to be stored, please do not respond. The results of the analysis will be published in a scientific journal. The study began in March 2010 and ends December 2011. We expect 1500 participants in total.
Attached is a consent form, a brief questionnaire and a plastic container to collect saliva with instructions. Please collect the saliva sample as indicated and return it to us by air mail. The following items must be included in the envelope: plastic container with saliva sample, consent form and completed questionnaire.
Thank you for your cooperation, Sincerely Jean-Francois Etter

Questionnaire:
Todays Date:
Sample collection time:
Over the last 48 hours did you smoke (even one puff of cigarette, cigar, pipe, etc.)? Y/N
Over the last 48 hours did you use any oral tobacco (chewing tobacco, snus), or snuff? Y/N
Over the last 48 hours did you use a nicotine replacement medication? (nicotine patch, gum, lozenge, inhaler, tablet)? Y/N
Over the last 48 hours have you inhaled the vapor of an electronic cigarette? Y/N
Currently, on how many days per week do you use the electronic cigarette? #
How many puffs per day do you draw on your electronic cigarette? #/day
Does the electronic cigarette that you currently use contain nicotine? Y/N
What is the volume/capacity (in milliliters, mL) of the bottles of liquid that you use to fill your electronic cigarettes? _ mL per bottle
What is the concentration of nicotine in this liquid? _ mg nicotine Specify Per mL, Per 10mL, Per 100 mL, Per litre
What is the capacity (in mg of nicotine) of the cartridge (refills) that you use with your electronic cigarette? _ mg nicotine per cartridge
Currently, how many times PER DAY do you refill your electronic cigarette, on average? (That is , how many times a day do you add liquid or do you insert a new cartridge) __ cartridges/refills per day
Usually, how long does a refill or cartridge of your electronic cigarette last? __hours
What brand and model of electronic cigarette do you currently use? _Brand _ Model
Question for EX-smokers: When did you quit smoking? Date__
Question for smokers: On average, how many cigarettes (tobacco) do you smoke per day? __ cig/day

Then has directions for how to use collection device
I wont go into that part but I bet rocket would love to get his hands on these things
Basically its a cotten filler inside a small container that fits into a cone head top cover





Just one additional note here. Any supplier who would like to get their name into this study Im available for ecig samples First come first served kidding
I'm a country Gal and my spit don't belong to nobody but me! Go for it if you think you have the balls and if you think you will have balls when they get done with you!!!
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Ohhh come on now?!! You telling me ya never swapped no spit with no one!
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I'm with you Rose. My body fluids are personal strickly confidential. Who knows what those Swiss are doing. They may use Berger's spit to clone little drone Bergers.
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Send them Hamster saliva.

Just kidding.

Sounds interesting. Cotinine in body fluids, which that little device looks like it could be used to collect several different fluids, is probably to confirm that we are actually absorbing nicotine, duh.
Some don't believe that.
I guess be as honest as you can.
You suggesting I send them this:
Hamster Spitting Out Food – Watch Video – on TubeHome.com

Really though I agree, I think this may end up being real important to us vapers in the long run as a piece of the puzzle in legitimacy. Im going to play it as straight as I can cause I think this can ultimately help the cause.
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you need a court order or be a hot naked woman to get any of my body fluids lol.
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Was wondering when you were going to jump in on this thread Chris...lol
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You suggesting I send them this:
Hamster Spitting Out Food – Watch Video – on TubeHome.com

Really though I agree, I think this may end up being real important to us vapers in the long run as a piece of the puzzle in legitimacy. Im going to play it as straight as I can cause I think this can ultimately help the cause.
I would generally agree with you Berger....except our FDA has an odd and mostly uniformed way of disreguarding true scientific data.
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you need a court order or be a hot naked woman to get any of my body fluids lol.
Ahh doesn't one lead to the other?
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I would generally agree with you Berger....except our FDA has an odd and mostly uniformed way of disreguarding true scientific data.
Thats why I feel better sending it to Switzerland then anywhere in the US
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I'm with you Rose. My body fluids are personal strickly confidential. Who knows what those Swiss are doing. They may use Berger's spit to clone little drone Bergers.
Thanks for agreeing with me and yes, Berger, I have shared my spit! But it's stayed close to home!
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I'm with you Rose. My body fluids are personal strickly confidential. Who knows what those Swiss are doing. They may use Berger's spit to clone little drone Bergers.
Been there done that got the t shirt(s)
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I have to admit my spit is well traveled.
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I have to admit my spit is well traveled.
Promises promises....
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OK follow up information.
Found the original 1995 study for the same process done at the same place for smokers, 2nd hand smokers and nonsmokers.
Interesting read, if your a science geek.

Here's the link:
http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/conten...3/251.full.pdf


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