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Old 01-09-2011, 10:04 PM   #1
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I have 1 bottle of 100ml of 99% Pure Nicotine liquid. I would like an equivalent between a normal cigarette and a e-liquid (perhaps 24mg) How do I mix to make 10ml of e-liquid?
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You say you have 100ml of Nicotine liquid 99% Pure . You will need to know the strength in mg.
If you do indeed have 99% pure nicotine it is equivalent to 990mg in strength (nic level).

The calculator does all your calculations.
Let's say it is 990mg in strength:
Enter your Nicotine level in the first box, 990
Next enter your desired strength, 24
Amount to make (ml) would be, 10
Any flavoring? 10% is a minimum start.
Your result would be:

Nicotine drops: 5
PG or VG or mixture of both (drops): 175
Flavoring drops: 20
If you don't use flavoring add the 20 drops to the PG/VG which would make 195 drops.
Or, change the flavoring 10% to 0 and recalculate.
If you prefer mixing by volume, use the ml measurements.

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Old 01-10-2011, 02:22 AM   #2
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Your email contact has a bottle of 99%pure nicotine?
He didn't buy it from you did he Herb?


Isn't that sort of like doing a one handed Google search for: "How do you put the pin back in a grenade"?

Now this person that obviously doesn't understand nicotine concentrations and simple mixing math is going to mix up some and not really know if he followed the instructions or not. On-line calculator? For sure Wouldn't it be better to IMMEDIATELY cut the concentration of the whole bottle to something safer? Then try mixing.


Hope you and all your friends have a really nice New Year.
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Instead of drops, I was wondering if the math could be broken into metric volume measurements. I have syringes from the local feed store and quite a few measuring cups (including a measuring double shot glass ).
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This is one test where you mess up you dont get an E you just DIE
Herb has already said they offer their mixtures in 100 nic/ml in PG and that is much less hazardous ( though not safe ) then trying to deal with a fume hood, safety equipment, etc. etc. I cant picture saving any money buying pure nic if you have to spend 10K on equipment just to stay alive during the mixing process.
10% NIC is still hazardous but at least its not immediately DEADLY from just opening the bottle and or spilling a few drops.

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Old 01-10-2011, 03:00 PM   #5
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This is one test where you mess up you dont get an E you just DIE
Herb has already said they offer their mixtures in 100 nic/ml in PG and that is much less hazardous ( though not safe ) then trying to deal with a fume hood, safety equipment, etc. etc. I cant picture saving any money buying pure nic if you have to spend 10K on equipment just to be stay alive during the mixing process.
10% NIC is still hazardous but at least its not immediately DEADLY from just opening the bottle and or spilling a few drops.
Berger- Only in Md can you get an E! And I thought that was normal til I moved out of state and found out only Md did that. It's an F everywhere else. I guess the other states don't use alphabetical order.
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As part of the Let's make the kids feel good about themselves" movement back in the 70's, they switched our grades from A-B-C-D-F to this:
E excellent
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So I was always happy when I brought home E's, which was almost always.
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They still use it that way here. They changed about everything else in school though.
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yes, there is no contact for us. and i heard that we just need about two drops, we can enjoy our vapes.
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Old 12-26-2011, 11:48 AM   #10
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Your email contact has a bottle of 99%pure nicotine?
He didn't buy it from you did he Herb?


Isn't that sort of like doing a one handed Google search for: "How do you put the pin back in a grenade"?

Now this person that obviously doesn't understand nicotine concentrations and simple mixing math is going to mix up some and not really know if he followed the instructions or not. On-line calculator? For sure Wouldn't it be better to IMMEDIATELY cut the concentration of the whole bottle to something safer? Then try mixing.


Hope you and all your friends have a really nice New Year.
The whole start to this thread makes me cringe.

Any DIYer... ESPECIALLY a new DIYer... should not be using pure nicotine to make ejuice recipes.

Any accident involving pure nicotine could be fatal.
One drop of pure nicotine (0.05ml) contains the equivalent to a fatal dose (~50mg) for an adult, and one fifth of that drop (0.01ml) is the equivalent of a fatal dose for a child (~10mg).

If you don't have the proper training, knowledge and safety gear for working with concentrated poison, don't even think about using pure nicotine... and if you are asking how to use it in an email, you DON'T have it.

The highest concentration a DIYer should be working with is 100mg/ml and only with sufficient protection and procedure.
If you are just starting off in DIY, I recommend beginning with a lower concentration such as 36-48mg/ml before moving up to a higher concentration.

Safety should always be the top consideration when working with concentrated nicotine base. Everything else is secondary.

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Instead of drops, I was wondering if the math could be broken into metric volume measurements. I have syringes from the local feed store and quite a few measuring cups (including a measuring double shot glass ).
Yes, volumetric measurements are preferable to using "drops".
Drop size can vary too much between dropper tops to be accurate.
1ml syringes are great for small measurements, and using a graduated cylinder to mix in helps keep track of where you are in your recipe.
Most recipes and ejuice calculators will give you the measurements in milliliters to work with.

*EDIT*

Crap... I just realized this thread got necro'd from a year ago.


Herb is just all over the board today.

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Isn't that sort of like doing a one handed Google search for: "How do you put the pin back in a grenade"?



Forgot I had said that


Then we go off track.

Nice ending to a bad start Wiz.


Sorry if I always come off as anal when it comes to safety.
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Isn't that sort of like doing a one handed Google search for: "How do you put the pin back in a grenade"?



Forgot I had said that
I couldn't think of a better analogy.

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Sorry if I always come off as anal when it comes to safety.
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Old 12-26-2011, 04:02 PM   #13
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Crap... I just realized this thread got necro'd from a year ago.

That's why I said it was a nice ending to a bad start.
This closes a dangling participle
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Old 01-05-2012, 09:27 PM   #14
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Happy new year to you all!

Pure nicotine is dangerous, but do it yourself liquids are very expensive, so I orderd 60 mls of pure nicotine for 30 euros and make my own bases.
But before that, I made some reading...
I vape 18mg of nicotine in my e cigs, which is medium.
So how do I make it?
First, I have five 100 ml empty bottles.
Then I make my PG-VG-water solutions as I like them.
I fill each bottle with my nicotine-free solutions.
Then, I wear a mask, rubber gloves and I put my full bottles near the sink.
I have running water right next to me, just in case. I also have an open window near me to get clean air all the time, just in case again.
If you want nicotine base of 18 mg, you add 1.8 ml in 100 ml solution.
If you want nicotine base of 24 mg, you add 2.4 ml in 100 ml solution etc.
So, I use my syringe an I put 1.8 ml in each of my 100 ml bottles.
Then I secure the nicotine bottles in unreachable place, wash and throw my mask,rubber gloves and syringe in a plastic bag and then in the garbage.
This way, I have my nicotine bases in a very very cheap way which will last for months, even a year.
So, dear thread starter, if you are still alive, don't be afraid about pins etc. Just use mls, print some good instructions and take all the measures.
Good luck.

P.S. I know I am in a dead thread, but I don't care.
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Then I secure the nicotine bottles in unreachable place, wash and throw my mask,rubber gloves and syringe in a plastic bag and then in the garbage.
Just a word of caution on this.
Do not throw anything contaminated with pure nicotine into the regular trash.
All pesticides, poisons, toxins, chemicals, solvents, etc. should be taken to your local hazardous waste site for disposal.
You don't want to put your garbage men, neighborhood animals, recyclers, etc. at risk, and I don't know about Greece, but over here it's the law.
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Just a word of caution on this.
Do not throw anything contaminated with pure nicotine into the regular trash.
All pesticides, poisons, toxins, chemicals, solvents, etc. should be taken to your local hazardous waste site for disposal.
You don't want to put your garbage men, neighborhood animals, recyclers, etc. at risk, and I don't know about Greece, but over here it's the law.
I said I wash them first.
Don't worry about the laws, we have them too. They are there for the industies to break them. In USA you have a lot for industries.
Well, here we don't have many industries, so we don't have the pollution you have over there.
On the other hand we have the economic crisis, (no industies, no jobs, no production) but we still inhale fresh air and eat some healthy things. The bad thing is that fresh air will be the only thing left to us pretty soon....

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I said I wash them first.
Don't worry about the laws, we have them too. They are there for the industies to break them. In USA you have a lot for industries.
Well, here we don't have many industries, so we don't have the pollution you have over there.
On the other hand we have the economic crisis, (no industies, no jobs, no production) but we still inhale fresh air and eat some healthy things. The bad thing is that fresh air will be the only thing left to us pretty soon....
I've been hearing about all those problems. I hope all turns out okay.
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Old 01-18-2012, 11:26 PM   #18
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the exact proportions for pure nic is 1% =10mg/ml by volume
so in your 24 mg/ml bottle of juice it is only 2.4% nic
now you have 100 ml of PURE nic
get 1 US gallon = 3,785ml of pg or pv or even mix whatever
now the best thing to do is mix your 100 mils strong
in 1 gal it will be 37.85mg/ml now the hard truth is it is never that exact when you get it
so you can literally round it up to 37.9 or even 38mg/ml
at this point you can use your internet found calculators
now as your question was
a single cig has any-ware from 240 to 500 mg of nic BUT please please please
note nicotine burns up with the ember and you only inhale about 12 to 18mg per large hack it up hit of a cig or 20 to 24mg in a cigar
the reason for the pleading is anything more than 30 mg/ml can be deadly DEADLY
you need to ware gloves and a respirator (safety first)a cheap chem suit isn't a bad idea either you can get them for around 15 to 20 bucks on line plastic coated paper
now i post this because people who don't know about pure nicotine should never get hold of it and enough idiots out there futs around with it and kill them selves because of its toxic levels than those of us that actually know what were doing will not be able to get it either thus the end of vaping or non-affordable juice prices so again please be careful and don't try to be macho and hit a 30mg+ liquid it is just plain stupid
and yes this is from a chemist
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....so again please be careful and don't try to be macho and hit a 30mg+ liquid it is just plain stupid
and yes this is from a chemist
hmmm? Chemist eh?

In the beginning I vaped 36mg Blueberry and Eggnog (for 2 weeks) when I really craved a real smoke.
It may be more unsafe than 24mg, and I don't think it's for everyone.
-But it's not "PLAIN STUPID"-

Plain stupid would be me going and buying a pack!
I say Vape 36 if you need to- I vape 24mg most of the time now, but I have some 36 in reserve.
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...24mg in a cigar
the reason for the pleading is anything more than 30 mg/ml can be deadly DEADLY
OMG!!! I'm dead! WTF was I thinking? Can someone pinch me, I think I'm DEAD!

-that said, a buddy tried to hit my blueberry and coughed a few times... I supposed If he DIED- which he should have - They could get me for MURDER...


OK -yeah, it is unsafe. but come on- DEADLY at 36mg- I'd say that is fear mongering, and misleading.

Maybe I'm wrong?
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No WR..36 mg is routinely sold around the web. That said how ever you can make yourself sick if you over expose so that may not be a very good choice for a chain vaper, but if on the other hand you are more a take a few hits and put it down for a while that may work better for you. I used to chain vape with 24 but found when reducing to 15 suited my semi chain vaping style much better. If you find your self getting nauseous feeling some times from vaping maybe you should try cutting you levels down to better fit your own style.
I guess to make a sweeping statement some certain number is automatically dangerous isnt really taking into account the variance in end user frequency not to mention the absorption rate variances between smoking and vaping. The math may look reasonable but in real world application there are a few more variables to consider IMHO

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Isn't that sort of like doing a one handed Google search for: "How do you put the pin back in a grenade"?


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OK that is were i was going with the statement i said CAN BE not IS. people seem to think just because it is sold that way i can use it that way
36 is sold with the intention of being cut with 0mg
i will say couple hits here and there probably OK but not as a constant
myself because of the possible danger of it
i would never do it
and i would tell someone the same thing again
i'm glad you got a steel system and it don't bother you
but you cant speak for everyone in fact people have made themselves very ill with a few hits of 36mg
oh look really closely next time your on sites selling higher than 24 they warn you that +
is for cutting only (we do not recommend vaping)

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OK that is were i was going with the statement i said CAN BE not IS. people seem to think just because it is sold that way i can use it that way
36 is sold with the intention of being cut with 0mg
i will say couple hits here and there probably OK but not as a constant
myself because of the possible danger of it
i would never do it
and i would tell someone the same thing again
i'm glad you got a steel system and it don't bother you
but you cant speak for everyone in fact people have made themselves very ill with a few hits of 36mg
oh look really closely next time your on sites selling higher than 24 they warn you that +
is for cutting only (we do not recommend vaping)
BS- http://www.vikingvapor.com/product_p/10008.htm
Look at that page- I bought it from them- you chose 36mg just like I did-
WHERE does it say ANYTHING about CUTTING ONLY?

It doesn't. Like I said- I'm vaping 24mg, and it works for me 95% of the time. Some days I don't have time to vape as much, and I need a hit of the stronger stuff. So I'm glad they sell it. I haven't gotten sick, and I haven't bought cigs.

But again, Yes, be careful if you get 36mg, it could kill you!
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