801 What the fudge???

coffeepot · 06-17-2009, 10:24 AM

OK, so I got an 801... I can make many things go wrong. I can make it vape very little, I can vape with no taste, I can make juice come out the mouth piece and sometimes, just sometimes it smokes like a dream!
What are the proper procedures for an 801???

HockerMagnum · 06-17-2009, 11:03 PM

Same here. One good puff, two good puffs, sometimes 3 and the atomizer is either flooded or starving dry. Then suddenly everything is in balance and a great vape until the cart is dry.

Let me know if you find the answer to consistency and I will do the same.

coffeepot · 06-17-2009, 11:48 PM

Yeah, I don't get it? I even have two different attomizers. Bought second one supose to be better. No difference really. Sometimes I just feel like a tard, seem like there is pleanty of people that love or at least like their 801's. I would love to expericence that for more than 5 minutes. Curious about the m-201.
I do have a couple 510s though. They usualy never let me down. Yeah, you let me know if you find a solution and I'll do the same for you. Thanks

godling · 06-18-2009, 02:19 AM

Been watching this thread, hoping someone had a good answer. Until somebody steps up though, I'll share my observations:

* Keep your battery full. Don't wait for the LED to complain, charge it often.
* Even fully-charged batteries need to be charged sometimes. Try it and see if it helps.
* Don't fill your cartridges full. Once the atty gets flooded, it seems to be the luck of the "draw" to get it working again.
* After filling a cart, put it away. Give it time for the fibers to soak up the juice (several hours, maybe a day). Yea, there are tons of reasons why this point is pointless ... but try it, it made a difference for me.
* After installing a cart, let the 801 sit for a while (10 minutes, half hour maybe). Give it time to make friends with the atty.
* If you refill with high-strength juice, continue using high-strength juice. If you use less nicotine than your 801 is used to, it'll jones just like you.
* Get to know your 801. Each battery, each atomizer, each cart has a personality of it's own. Mark your batteries ... even name them if it helps ... and make a conscious effort to remember who it is your dealing with each time you take a drag.

These are just some observations I made before giving up on the 801. Someone may want to do better experiments and see what kind of difference any of these ideas actually make. I'm sure everyone would love to hear your results here.

coffeepot · 06-18-2009, 07:46 AM

goddling, sounds like good advise... I try it and get back to yah. Thanks

thatron · 06-18-2009, 03:43 PM

My first experience with the 801 was pretty sucky. My main problem was getting threads of filler on the atomizer all the time. But since I've been replacing the cart filler with a slice of coffee filter, it's been pretty sweet.

HockerMagnum · 06-18-2009, 05:23 PM

With my 801 atomizers there seems to be a condition beyond flooded. Call it vapor locked. I get fooled into thinking I can just puff harder and hotter and it will come into balance. I never reach that point until I have blown it out completely dry and start over with thinner liquid. Once the wick material is full of thick fluid it never comes back.

Trying to come up with a way to consistently measure the viscosity and surface tension wicking ability of what I mix. I use only VG and flavor.

coffeepot · 06-18-2009, 07:05 PM

Ok guys, I heard that the Janty kissbox atty would work with the 801 and kick butt I ordered tonight from http://www.vaporguys.com/ I keep you all informed of when I get it and how it preforms. OH an the Janty Kissbox warranty is 6 months!!!

Thanks, hope this works!!!

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H3VAPER · 06-21-2009, 10:27 AM

If you want to solve your problems just buy a pass thru... Even hit each and every time.. And they work great with a APC power pack.. Take it any were.. They last at least 2 to 3 days..

coffeepot · 06-21-2009, 11:33 AM

H3VAPOR- You already gave me my answer 2-3 weeks ago. get a 510 which I did and it ROCKS!!! Got some manuals bats now too. Thanks

But I am stuck on this 801 thing and when I get stuff in my head, well there's nothing I can do but go with it.

I dont like the passthrough when I'm walking around. Did you get the V1 yet, how is it???

newbie · 06-21-2009, 10:18 PM

Hi guys, new here. What's an apc?

coffeepot · 06-22-2009, 12:58 AM

apc is to the best of my knowledge a battery pack the you can plug a usb cord into, such as a pass-through. A pass-through is like plugging in you ecig instead of running off a battery. From my understanding a good apc can last a day. be cool if your going hiking. I don't have one. I'm a looser that doesn't leave his house and I work in my own garage. I bought, for about $17, a thingy that plugs into wall and I can hook up a usb, it also plugs into a car cig lighter (thats ironic). USB pass-throughs can have there own problems too. If you get one, put some strong glue wherever the wire goes in and of anything. Otherwise the wires tend to get pulled loose, hence the product is then garbage. There are other ways to prevent the wire thing just check around the forums. Oh this may help the apc question and really this is all I should of said but I dont want to go back to work right now so thank you for asking a question I kind of know. http://www.vapeatron.com/apc-portabl...ower-pack-365/

HockerMagnum · 06-22-2009, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HockerMagnum

With my 801 atomizers there seems to be a condition beyond flooded. Call it vapor locked. I get fooled into thinking I can just puff harder and hotter and it will come into balance. I never reach that point until I have blown it out completely dry and start over with thinner liquid. Once the wick material is full of thick fluid it never comes back.

Trying to come up with a way to consistently measure the viscosity and surface tension wicking ability of what I mix. I use only VG and flavor.

That post is false. I had it all bassackwards. Thin is bad. Thick is good.

H3VAPER · 06-22-2009, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coffeepot

H3VAPOR- You already gave me my answer 2-3 weeks ago. get a 510 which I did and it ROCKS!!! Got some manuals bats now too. Thanks

But I am stuck on this 801 thing and when I get stuff in my head, well there's nothing I can do but go with it.

I dont like the passthrough when I'm walking around. Did you get the V1 yet, how is it???

Ordered it and waiting..

coffeepot · 06-23-2009, 10:27 PM

WoW I suck, got the kissbox atty a couple days ago and still havent written anything about it. Not that I havent been using it, I have. The differences are elusive to me 2 hole, 4 hole, kisbox.... I'm killing myself at work, got to. So havent had much time to play. I'll say though that kissbox atty kickes out the smoke. Later

coffeepot · 07-20-2009, 09:46 AM

OK, so I really dropped the ball a wile back on this thread. My conclusion was 801's suck! I love the idea and when I could get mine working well it rocked but that would only last about a cart's worth. But to show you how dedicated I am to beating my head against the wall, I ordered a Prodigy with the 801 adapter. With the power of the Prodigy and a big 801 atty & cart....well we'll see....

nebraskapuffer · 07-21-2009, 07:30 PM

When I bought my 801 is the time I found out not all sellers are equal. When it worked it was great, it could have became my favorite if it was consistant. But the biggest problem I had with it was the guy who I bought it from. Ya know coffeepot, you concluded your 801 sucked.....well thats the conclusion I came up with for the seller of my 801. I would like to say who it is but that is just not a nice thing to do and I wouldn't want to put myself at that man's level. I know it's silly but since then the 801 just doesn't appeal to me anymore. Maybe I'll change because if I ever get the prodigy I would want it with the biggest cart possible and I'm sure the 801 cart is the one."The Prodigy"..........hmmmmmmmm

godling · 07-21-2009, 10:12 PM

Are you sure it was an issue with the seller? Have you purchased an 801 from someone else and it works great? Does anyone have an 801 that has been consistent and worry free?

Rocketman · 07-21-2009, 10:17 PM

still have some pennys left.

When I started shopping last year, the 801 was reported as inconstant, hasn't changed much. I don't own one for that reason. Is it good, don't know, but the chatter makes me question it. Some really like it. Some really liked the cigar also.
Rocket

nebraskapuffer · 07-21-2009, 11:03 PM

My 801 has never been consistant or worry free. The seller I was dealing with didn't like warrenty issues he just wanted to sell and make money. He turned from a nice acting guy to a rude !@#$% as soon as there were warrenty issues.

I had problems with my 701 cigar too from another souce and I just stopped sending it back because the guy was so good about it and I think he genuinly felt bad about it and always replaced it along with free cartridges but after the 3rd time I felt sorry for him and got a 510 and lived happily ever after.

coffeepot · 07-22-2009, 10:23 AM

We'll got my Prodigy Monday evening. It's broke came that way.

iCanBreathe · 01-07-2010, 12:52 AM

I havent had the best time with my 801 either. 3 attys, and none of them great. I have been looking for some help with the white crap below the bridge, ( may be the burnt taste problem), but waiting on answers.. GGGRRR> so frustrating. Should have gotten a 510 i guess. ANy suggestions?

Rocketman · 01-07-2010, 06:40 AM

I picked up a few 801 attys and carts with a Chinese order. They were really cheap and I had already crossed 500 grams with the order and had some extra weight before shipping went up.

The bridge in these look pretty much just like a 510, with a small amount of dark brown troll hair under the bridge (not white). The cart filler is not like the straight chopped fiber like my e-cigars I started with, more like the 510 carts I have.

I wonder if old stock 801 attys and carts are being clearanced out at cheap prices?

I tried one with an adapter on the MOD and it did fine. I dripped and used a full cart, pretty wet that way.
To me the 801 produced a lot of vapor, but the big cart just takes time to wick. Two many hits, too fast may overheat something.
If they weren't cheap ($4.50 I think) I wouldn't have messed with them.

I has been my experience, mostly with the DSE-701, but with a couple of 510 attys, once you start getting the "burning plastic mop bucket, makes you want to puke" taste, it's over, kaput. I tried but have never brought a deep fried atty back to life.

Are these the old style? Is there an old style 801? Don't know. But one thing for sure:

a wet atty, is a happy atty.

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iCanBreathe · 01-07-2010, 08:52 AM

That worries me.. ALL of my attys (3) ((801)) have the white shredded wic lookin stuff under the bridge. Hmmm. So, you are thinking maybe there is a new product out with brown wic lookin stuff? maybe they changed over?? thats something i need to look into.. thanks for the heads up.