renderwerks

I learned of this on another forum, gave it a try, and it works great!

It's simple as well. I have a Yeti (510), may work for other carts as well...

Get yourself some coffee stirrers and a razor blade or sharp scissors:

This is the "single tube" type. I've heard that the "double tube" design works better, but this is what we had at work.

You'll want to cut a short piece with an angle on both ends and insert it in the cart where the "wool" is:

Note the angle cut on the end of the straw. You'll want this on both ends. The length of the tube should be such that the straw will drop just below the surface of the wool when fully inserted:


Sometimes, you may need to raise the straw very slightly so it is not touching the bottom of the juice chamber.

What this will do is provide a "vent" for the air to escape from the bottom of the juice chamber as it's being filled.

Because the wool will spread the juice out as it fills, it traps the air at the bottom of the juice chamber and causes the cart to appear filled while there is still an air pocket at the bottom of the well. The vent allows it to escape as it's being filled.

An additional bonus that I have seen is when the atty is vaporizing the juice, the vent allows air back into the bottom of the well and causes the juice to rise to the top of the wool quicker as there is not a vacuum at the bottom of the well. The result is more pulls with higher vapor production.

I've noticed I can vaporize more juice from the wool - until the wool begins to look white.

Mossman

I just tried that mod using a double chamber coffee stirrer, and it did seem to soak up more juice than usual, but it can lead to over-filling the cart... I kept dripping into the cart until it looked like it had absorbed as much as it would, without pooling at the top, but a couple of minutes after reattaching the cart, it started leaking all over the place... My guess is; the juice probably pooled at the bottom, instead of the top. So just make sure you don't go nuts filling the cart.

I also found the draw to be a bit harder, probably due to the fact that the wadding was more compressed with the straw in the cart... I didn't really notice any appreciable increase in vapor... I'm gonna try it with the single-chamber stirrer, and see if that works better...

sinner

ive been doing this with my e-cigar for awhile now. it really seems to help get more out of your carts.

i have a 510 on the way, i plan on doing the same thing with it

EDIT: by the way, i only use 1 straw, not 2.

smokin joe

I love the double barrel coffee stirrer and remove half of my stuffing. U can use it as a gravity fed type juice dripper. cart up to fill atty. and cart down if it get gurgly. It really burns great

Generic

Hey all!

This mod works well but it is a wee bit tedious. I use a syringe with a 16 guage needle to fill my 510 carts from the bottom. Works great!

I've heard folks mention that compressing the wicking material affects draw but I disagree- if you study the 510 cart (unless there are different styles) you will find that air drawn from the mouthpiece does NOT flow through the wick/resevoir but rather around in on two sides. Take a close look at the cart and you'll see what I mean. Put your finger over the open end (the part you fill) and take a drag- you'll find that the air flows through the two little side vent-a-majigs on the sides.

I'm not busting anyone's chops- I felt like I had a harder draw the first time I overstuffed a cart too- I guess the power of suggestion is pretty strong, huh?

I've babbled enough. Get a syringe and give it a try- I'll never do it an y other wahy.

Peace all,

Generic

smokin joe

I actually do the straw mod more for wicking purposes it drain the cart better for me. Not for the drag or refill(although is does help for topping off)

nebraskapuffer

I bought a bag of poly fill, enough for three lifetimes of cartridges. I use new each time. I'll fill my empty cart 3/4 full then with tweezers put the poly fill in all the way to the bottom. Then trim off with scissors, then I'll use a bic lighter to singe off the fuzz left behind and it leaves it kinda nice and flat across the cart then I top it off and I'm good to go. I used to get frusterated when there was so much juice left in the carts but I don't have that problem nearly as much. I can use them till dry if I want. I've got a bottle of "cart squeezins" from the unused juice I used to have in all my carts but now my bottle isn't getting full nearly as fast. This bottle is all the flavors I've ever had mixed into one batch and ya know, I use it for dripping and it ain't bad. Good stuff Maynard!

Rocketman

somebody here reported a while back having a somewhat tough time explaining the syringe in their "kit" at a standard traffic stop. A vaping cop defused the situation.
R

Generic

You might be on to something there Joe- I'm gonna try it cuz I never seem to vape my carts dry. Have you compared with and without the straw?

-Generic

Generic

I hear ya there- I would never take it on the road with me that's for sure. Not that common sense matters to a lot of LEOs but how many junkies would use a 16 guage needle? I mentioned my syringe to a buddy of mine that is a horseman and the largest he uses is a 22 guage when giving his horses meds. I believe that is 3 times smaller than a 16. I think they use these things on elephants!

-Generic

VapingVictoria

anyone feel like they are doing something kinda illegal when they fill their carts in public?

Rocketman

Ah, so you can refill cartomizers.

VapingVictoria

eeeeew...that sounds gross.

Rocketman

eeeeew...that does sound gross.

smokin joe

yeah first time I tried it I didn't notice anything, but tried it a couple weeks later and haven't looked back..........if you get your stuffing to the right amount(1/3) you can run a gravity fed drip type system. Tip it up or down to feed the juice.

Lazarus

Recycled "cart squeezin" juice, hmmm. Sounds like something I would try in Vault 101.

Not until then.

BTW, I am cart free since 6/15/2009. Straight dripper now...too much wasted juice.

nebraskapuffer

Vault 101 or whatever. When you have a steady dependable job for over 10 years and suddenly it changes. You work a week and your laid off a week. You don't know from day to day if you will have a job tomorrow or not. I found out Thursday the plant is closed all next week and we don't know about the following week until further notice. I just got back to work from a 60 day layoff and while laid off no one was even taking appllications for draftsman (or much else for that matter) within a 50 mile radius of here. So I didn't mean to gross anyone out my mentioning "cart squeezins" but I think people should know that option is there if they need it. I hope no one has to lower their standards to do this but I would rather squeeze carts than let those last couple drops of "precious juice" go to waste.

VapingVictoria

Sorry, didn't mean to sound insensative. I feel your pain. I still have a job. But got a friend living in my spare bedroom because he's been out of work for months.

Lazarus

You should try straight dripping, no fuss, no muss, no week old brown juice to deal with.

Wasn't dissing anyone, just my preference.

VaporFiend

My 510 leaks all over the place when i lay it down. The straw would seem to amplify this problem. Laz, dripping is awesome though a bit tedious. It would suck while you're driving....

smokin joe

yes it would.....

VapingVictoria

I've been using straw modified carts for about a month and yes they do leak a bit. But the hit you get is awesome.

Stehle

You may be a candidate for a PTB. Over two weeks, no leaks at 16 to 19 drops per 501 cart.

You also may be a candidate for a PTB. Over two weeks, no leaks at 16 to 19 drops per 501 cart. Awesome hit also.

Perhaps not for everyone, but after using them over two weeks they were a solution that helped me with a "leak".

Generic

I'm feelin ya 10000% Nebraska. I'm a sheeny from WAY back; While I love to spend money I love to save it too. My g/f and I got into candlemaking a while back and it killed me to throw out that little bit of wax after each session so I started pouring into (ironically) one of my tobacco cans. Eventually I had a 5 lb. Multi-layer potrourri candle. G/f said "Yuck!" but as it burned thru the layers it smelled great! I think I have about 500 hours on that candle and many more to go.

NEVER apologize for being thrifty- I surely won't! times are tough and my folks (depression era) taught me well :-)

-Generic

nebraskapuffer

Thanks Generic, my point exactly I needed to hear that too. And it don't get brown and nasty, you never know what color it'll be but it's always different and always good. My folks raised me the same and I'm glad they did.