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04-10-2011, 02:45 PM
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04-10-2011, 09:31 PM
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| So toss the folks here a bone.
Some details on what you are using. | |
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04-10-2011, 09:51 PM
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#3 | | Darth Vaper Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Leftern Mass
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Originally Posted by JohnnyJames  So toss the folks here a bone.
Some details on what you are using. | Looks like a PTN04050 with a 510 connector.
Oh, and a variable resistor to alter the voltage.
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04-11-2011, 12:01 AM
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#4 | | Vapeatron Grammar Hammer Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Holding up a lamp post.
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Originally Posted by Steampunk Looks like a PTN04050 with a 510 connector.
Oh, and a variable resistor to alter the voltage. | I thought that was called a potentiometer. I could certainly be wrong, I'm still new into the whole electronics jargon.
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04-11-2011, 12:06 AM
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#5 | | Vapeatron Grammar Hammer Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Holding up a lamp post.
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Originally Posted by breaktru This is a Box mod with (1) 14500, 3.7v battery and a Booster Regulator with an output of 4volts to 6.8volts .44 Mini Booster Box Mod | That's pretty cool! How about a Cor-Bon .45, though? I think if you could configure a slicker body (like a wood body) it'd be a showcase PV! You could probably just buy a dugout and cut off one of the broad sides to carve spaces, drill holes, and install the guts. Obviously it'd be more time-consuming and likely more expensive, but that would look sweet!
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04-11-2011, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Dhileas I thought that was called a potentiometer. I could certainly be wrong, I'm still new into the whole electronics jargon. | Well if you want to get technical if using all three legs potentiometer sounds good (many times they are also called a trimmer).
If I see the term variable resistor I assume only two of the legs are being used, the wiper and one of the outside legs (A or B). Which outside leg will determine the rotation from high to low (CW/CCW). 
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04-11-2011, 12:19 AM
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#7 | | Vapeatron Grammar Hammer Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Holding up a lamp post.
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Originally Posted by JohnnyJames Well if you want to get technical if using all three legs potentiometer sounds good (many times they are also called a trimmer).
If I see the term variable resistor I assume only two of the legs are being used, the wiper and one of the outside legs (A or B). Which outside leg will determine the rotation from high to low (CW/CCW).
This ain't set in stone though. | OH! I never knew how that worked! Thanks, that's pretty cool!
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04-11-2011, 03:35 AM
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That's pretty cool! How about a Cor-Bon .45, though? I think if you could configure a slicker body (like a wood body) it'd be a showcase PV! You could probably just buy a dugout and cut off one of the broad sides to carve spaces, drill holes, and install the guts. Obviously it'd be more time-consuming and likely more expensive, but that would look sweet!
| you mean like this? 
not my work, I wish I could do stuff like this | |
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04-11-2011, 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Pleidius you mean like this? Attachment 2255
not my work, I wish I could do stuff like this | For the most part yeah! I think that would look really sharp!
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04-11-2011, 06:39 AM
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#10 | | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: NYC
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Originally Posted by JohnnyJames So toss the folks here a bone.
Some details on what you are using. | I thought they say, a picture is worth a thousand words!
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04-11-2011, 10:50 AM
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| Hey Break...Is this the followup from before?
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04-11-2011, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by berger Hey Break...Is this the followup from before? |  | |
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04-11-2011, 11:05 AM
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| Sweet..thanks..
what ohm atty you using with this set up?
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04-11-2011, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by berger Sweet..thanks..
what ohm atty you using with this set up? | That depends Berger on what voltage you have tuned in.
If your atty resistance is too low, the 04050c will cut off protecting it from damage.
Use this to calculate your ohmage or do it the old fashion way with a calculator:  | |
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04-11-2011, 12:51 PM
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#15 | | Vapeatron Grammar Hammer Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Holding up a lamp post.
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Originally Posted by breaktru That depends Berger on what voltage you have tuned in.
If your atty resistance is too low, the 04050c will cut off protecting it from damage.
Use this to calculate your ohmage or do it the old fashion way with a calculator: | Ten watts is too much! 
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04-11-2011, 12:57 PM
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| So go lower, it's your choice | |
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04-11-2011, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dhileas Ten watts is too much!
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04-11-2011, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyJames Nah.... | LOL Me at 10w: 
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04-11-2011, 01:55 PM
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| i do twelve watts, and 15 is too much imo,... but twelve is just fine, and common.. very common in fact... | |
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04-11-2011, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Dhileas LOL Me at 10w:
| I've actually cut my watts down quite a bit. Was starting to fall into typical addict behavior. Chasing the high by increasing the 'dose'.
It's odd how different vaping is from smoking. Nobody transitions from light cigarettes, to regular and finally non filters. | |
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| That looks sweet, have any for sale?
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Originally Posted by JohnnyJames It's odd how different vaping is from smoking. Nobody transitions from light cigarettes, to regular and finally non filters. | you mean I was doing it wrong?? | |
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04-11-2011, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin That looks sweet, have any for sale? | Sometimes you have to look past the 'cute factor'.
Let's look at how these boosters work.
We'll use 5V (that's the native output).
5V-> 2.5Ω-> 2A-> 10W. But we are boosting a 3.7V cell. Using Ohm's Law to get the 10W means the 14500 needs to provide a sustained 2.7A (35% more) of current to maintain the output voltage. That's a lot to ask of a standard 14500, and at that rate it won't take long to drain that cell. On top of that the extreme discharge rate, which far exceeds the cell's MAX Discharge Rating will be aging it rather quickly.
We also have to remember that these boosters are about ~85% efficient which means we are throwing away 15% of the cell's capacity right from the get go.
Making it less cute, using a 3AA box and running the booster with two 14500s in parallel would make for a better overall experience. Runtimes and cell longevity (the amount of charge cycles before capacity drops) would increase.
Food for thought. | |
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04-11-2011, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyJames Sometimes you have to look past the 'cute factor'.
Let's look at how these boosters work.
We'll use 5V (that's the native output).
5V-> 2.5Ω-> 2A-> 10W. But we are boosting a 3.7V cell. Using Ohm's Law to get the 10W means the 14500 needs to provide a sustained 2.7A (35% more) of current to maintain the output voltage. That's a lot to ask of a standard 14500, and at that rate it won't take long to drain that cell. On top of that the extreme discharge rate, which far exceeds the cell's MAX Discharge Rating will be aging it rather quickly.
We also have to remember that these boosters are about ~85% efficient which means we are throwing away 15% of the cell's capacity right from the get go.
Making it less cute, using a 3AA box and running the booster with two 14500s in parallel would make for a better overall experience. Runtimes and cell longevity (the amount of charge cycles before capacity drops) would increase.
Food for thought. | agreed, but if your going to use a 3aa batt box, why would you not use a regulator, and drop the 15%down a bit? Now rember i agree with you johnny... | |
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04-11-2011, 04:53 PM
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#25 | | Vapeatron Grammar Hammer Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Holding up a lamp post.
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Originally Posted by JohnnyJames I've actually cut my watts down quite a bit. Was starting to fall into typical addict behavior. Chasing the high by increasing the 'dose'.
It's odd how different vaping is from smoking. Nobody transitions from light cigarettes, to regular and finally non filters. | Yeah I had that reaction at first. Started at 12mg/ml and went to 24mg/ml before I decided to drop to 6mg/ml on average. I prefer the flavor and throat hit more than the nicotine. Same thing into wattage. I started slow (inadvertently) and tried as high as 11w. I might have felt my brain splatter in my cranium. lol I didn't like having that reaction every time. It just got to be exhausting. So, I've found my favorite being around 8w.
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